30 Nov
Posted by Sam Jackson as Esoterotica, personal
I’ve explained before that my current education plan is to do something very interdisciplinary blending science with public policy.
I then point to the desperate need for this sort of “pro-earth, reason & science” presence in Washington. Well, Chris Mooney over at The Intersection (on ScienceBlogs–Chris is the Washington correspondent for Seed and senior correspondent for The American Prospect) had some really nice (in the awful sense) clippings from Scalia in a recent hearing where something science-related came along. This is judicial review which affects policy, so it still counts. Mooney has picked out some pretty nasty pieces from the transcript, and I looked at the transcript itself and there is indeed much worse. All the same…
[below excerpt lifted from Mooney, thanks!]
JUSTICE SCALIA: Mr. Milkey, I had — my problem is precisely on the impermissible grounds. To be sure, carbon dioxide is a pollutant, and it can be an air pollutant. If we fill this room with carbon dioxide, it could be an air pollutant that endangers health. But I always thought an air pollutant was something different from a stratospheric pollutant, and your claim here is not that the pollution of what we normally call “air” is endangering health. That isn’t, that isn’t — your assertion is that after the pollutant leaves the air and goes up into the stratosphere it is contributing to global warming.
MR. MILKEY: Respectfully, Your Honor, it is not the stratosphere. It’s the troposphere.
JUSTICE SCALIA: Troposphere, whatever. I told you before I’m not a scientist.
(Laughter.)
JUSTICE SCALIA: That’s why I don’t want to have to deal with global warming, to tell you the truth.
These are things that we learned about in middle school, for the record. At least in Newton, Massachusetts. And straightforward, relevant science with which I would hope the Supreme Court Justices could take the time to familiarize themselves. Continued excerpt after the break.
MR. MILKEY: Under the express words of the statute — and this is 302(g) — for something to be an air pollutant it has to be emitted into the ambient air or otherwise entered there.
JUSTICE SCALIA: Yes, and I agree with that. It is when it comes out an air pollutant. But is it an air pollutant that endangers health? I think it has to endanger health by reason of polluting the air, and this does not endanger health by reason of polluting the air at all.
MR. MILKEY: Your Honor, respectfully, I disagree, and there is nothing in the act that actually requires the harm to occur in the ambient air. In fact, some of the harm here does occur there.
JUSTICE SCALIA: Well, it talks about air pollution all the time. That’s what the, that’s what the thing is about, air pollution. It’s not about global warming and it’s not about the troposphere.
Transcript again for those masochistic or concerned enough to read it.
One Response
Tracy
November 30th, 2006 at 4:29 pm
1yikes, that is pretty painful to read. there is a definite need for ome more science-oriented and science-educated policy makers in this world…especially our country which seems to be increasingly out of touch. one problem (in my perspective at least) is that too few schools create effective interdisciplinary study programs, and there is this artificial divide between the sciences and many of the other disciples, particularly politics. Fortunately things are improving. Good luck with your ambitions…i hope that you are part of a larger trend and that there will be some changes in our country in the future.
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